In this episode of Do This, Not That, host Jay Schwedelson emphasizes that retaining customers is far more cost-effective and profitable than acquiring new ones. He shares actionable tactics to improve customer retention—from personal direct messages to creating exclusive power user panels—all designed to deepen engagement and drive sustained growth.
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Best Moments:
(00:40) Introduction to the topic of focusing on existing customers
(01:50) Eye-opening statistics on customer retention and its impact on profits
(02:38) Tactic 1: Direct messaging top customers personally
(04:13) Tactic 2: Automated, personalized quarterly check-ins
(05:11) Tactic 3: Creating a power user panel for the top 5% of customers
(05:46) Additional tactics: private communities, special email series, and SMS updates
(06:56) The “hand holding” strategy for personal customer engagement
(08:30) Introduction to Marigold’s Consumer Trends Index
(09:18) Personal anecdote about trying weight loss medication
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Transcript
Foreign. Welcome to do this, not that, the podcast for marketers. You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately.
You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share tactics, quick wins, and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos that is our everyday. I'm Jay Schwedelson. Let's do this, not that.
We are back for do this, not that podcast presented by Marigold. And today, we're talking about my favorite people. No, not you. Although you're not bad, it is existing customers.
Those are the greatest people for your business, for your brand. Doesn't matter if you're a business marketer or a consumer marketer. We need to focus more on our existing customers.
And I want to share some very specific tactics and test ideas on how you can get more out of your existing customers and why we should be focusing in on them.
You know, my own agency, we cut out prospecting outreach by about 90% because I realized we were doing a terrible job of taking care of our current customers. All right, there's this quote by this guy, Neil Baringham, that I love, and it's the grass isn't greener on the other side.
It's greener on side the other, where you water it. And that is a fact.
When you focus on your existing customers and you're watering your own grass instead of running around looking for greener pastures all the time, new customers all the time, that is how you crush it. So before I get into the tactics, there are some stats that kind of blew my mind as it relates to focusing in on your existing customers.
So this one came from Harvard Business Review. Acquiring a new customer can cost up to 25 times more than keeping the existing one. Or how about this one from Bain and Company?
Just a 5% increase in retention can boost profits by 25 to 95%. Okay. Retention is the ultimate growth hack. It is. So let's get into some specific tactics that you can do right, to increase the retention.
That is the game. How do we get our current customers?
I don't care how big your business is, how small your business is, if you're a consumer brand or a business brand, how do we make our current customers feel like they are super important to us and how do we get more from them? All right, this first one, this first tactic, you're going to say, there's no way I can do that. I don't have the time. But you do have the time.
Okay, Someone in your team has the time and this works incredibly well. This is DMing direct messaging your best customers as if it's coming from like a friend.
Not just coming from your brand, is actually coming from you or one of the leaders in your organization. Even if it's coming via the brand account, you are sending them direct messages, okay?
On LinkedIn, on Instagram, and you're doing this to your top customers. You could take a thousand of your top customers and you could DM them and you could say something like this.
Hey Dave, just wanted to say thanks for checking out all of our latest products and our latest stuff. You're such a loyal customer. I want to check in with you, make sure all things are good, that you're happy. Whatever. This crushes it.
This might take you two hours to message out to a thousand people or someone on your team, but those thousand people are going to feel connected to you. I mean, think about this podcast for example. What if I messaged you, say hey Jen, I just want to say thanks for checking out the podcast.
Any thoughts on new episode ideas or any other shows you think I should check out that you listen to. And then you put this in and this is really important. This is actually me sending this. No mass spam garbage.
Hope you reply J and I send that message out, which I do by the way, and it gets me to be able to be connected with people. You do this from your brand account. I don't care if you're a direct to consumer marketer. I don't care if you're selling a boring B2B SaaS platform.
You send this to your thousand top customers. This crushes it. All right? What other things can you do if you think you don't have the time for that?
You at least, you at least have to automate a personalized check in quarterly. Okay? With your top customers. A personalized check in quarterly.
And this should be in a letter format email from one of the most well known people in your organization or the person that closed the deal that they care about.
And at least quarterly a note has to go out that is letter format that doesn't look like it was some done in like some canva template or some template from your email sending platform. And the subject line should be something like check in. How goes it?
And you go, hey Steve, I notice you've been using whatever product or service for a while and we really appreciate you. Any feedback on things we can improve. Hit reply. I actually read these right?
And you make sure that you can actually get those replies while it's automated. It feels human. Okay, now let's get into other stuff besides for DMS and emails. I love this one. Create a power user panel. Okay. What does that mean?
People love influencing the brands that they buy from. They absolutely love it. If you invite the top 5% of your customers to a private Slack or maybe it's a zoom call, right?
And they you have them come on and you're sharing the roadmap for the quarter ahead or the year ahead, some new products that you're going to be launching, whatever it may be and you invite them to be part of this, this top 5% power user panel. That is gold. And these people feel connected forever. How about other ones? Let's rattle off a bunch.
What if you just created a private community for long term users? Forget about, you know, trying to build a community for a zillion people. Make it small for your super users, for your super clients.
You can make a community on any platform. You could do it in WhatsApp community. You could do a Slack community. It's easy.
How about a special email series from the founders of your company, right? And it's the only for our Peeps series. And here are handpicked bundles that I personally love. So the founder is sending out.
These are the things that I personally love that I want to get to you. You're our super duper friends, right? You feel connected to the founder of that puts a face on the brand that you are promoting.
We all are talking about doing more SMS and text, but don't do it for everybody.
Have a text thing only for your favorite customers, only for your top 5% customers where they could sign up and get text updates and SMS updates and you, you label it as such. You make sure that they understand that it's only for our top 5%, whatever it may be.
And the last one is something that my organization has been doing for a while. It's something I call hand holding. And this is, this literally has changed my business.
And again, it doesn't matter if you are Kim Kardashian running skims, it doesn't matter if you are the CEO of Microsoft. It doesn't matter if you're a five person organization, if you're a coach and you have a health coaching business.
It doesn't matter how big or small you are. We do this thing called hand holding which is myself included and a handful of my top people in my company.
Every 90 days we switch over 20 new contacts that we're hand holding. What does that mean? So I get 20 contacts of existing customers and people that we are working with.
And for those 90 days, I am reaching out to them directly. I'm emailing them, I'm DMing them on LinkedIn. I'm sending them interesting thought leadership stuff.
I am sending them one to one communications for 90 days to these 20 people, besides for my regular job, okay? And then every 90 days, I get a new 20 people to do this with. And what it has done for my business has been wild, okay?
Because these 90 people feel so connected to me and to my business. If you do nothing else and you do a rotation every 90 days, 20 contacts, which you can totally do, it is a total game changer.
So there's this cheesy saying that I made up that getting 10 clients in one year is easy, but keeping one client for 10 years is incredible. And that's what it's all about.
So the question I'd ask you is, what is the one thing you're gonna be able to do next week to make your existing customers feel that love?
All right, before we get into the since you didn't ask, which is the ridiculous portion of this podcast, I want to let you know that this podcast is presented by Marigold. Listen, Marigold is an incredible email sending platform and I am loyal to them.
But they have something that you need to check out that actually really speaks to this whole topic of today, which is their new Consumer Trends Index. This thing is free. This thing is ungated. They surveyed 21,700 people about why they feel connected to a brand.
Why do they spend more with a brand, why do they stick with that brand? And they released all the data and you can get it@meet marigold.com CTI this is the Consumer Trends Index. It just came out. It is free.
There's no form. It's ungated. That's@meetmaragle.com CTI check that out. All right, since you didn't ask, well, wow, this podcast got me some serious trouble.
I'm going to tell you why.
So the other day I'm talking to my wife about one of the podcast episodes I did, and I mentioned my wife that I was talking about Ozempic and wegovy and Semaglutide and whatever. And I don't remember even what I was talking about it. And then she said to me, you know, why don't you go on one of those?
And I said, what are you talking about? And I had no good excuse. I'm probably. I probably could lose 10 pounds. Okay, that's probably Where I'm at, I've always been that way.
Ten pounds, probably I should lose whatever. And I don't go on a lot of these fad diets. Whatever. She goes, well, why don't you go on one of those and give it a shot? And I was like, oh, my God.
And here I am on this podcast, and I try to keep it real. I really do. I try to be very real, share what's going on in my life, because that's what's going on. And you know what?
I went on one of these things, so now I'm on one of these semaglutides. I started taking it, okay. And I'm like, well, I'm not going to talk about that on my podcast, because that's, like, weird, embarrassing.
I don't know what. But then if I actually do end up losing weight or whatever, and then I'm lying. That's not cool. So I'm being real. So here it is.
I started this thing nine days ago. You stick a shot in yourself, this little shot once a week. And I'm going to continue to update everybody on how it's going to.
Okay, I have lost one pound so far. All right, so we're on our way. And what is my take on this? And by the way, I know for some people it's expensive, other people get discounts on it.
Whatever. Okay, you do you. So how's it going? For me? I honestly, this is not a commercial for it, but I've had no side effects. Yay.
Meaning they say sometimes you get nauseous. Whatever. That hasn't happened to me. Whatever. I also don't think feel like I'm not eating as much. I still think I'm doing the same thing.
So I don't know if this one pound is actually as a result of what's going on.
And I know it's good for lots of other stuff, which is the other reason I'm taking it, because apparently it, like, helps out all these other health things. I have no idea. This whole thing might be a total stupid idea, and I'm a big loser.
Like, you know, do taking one of these things, like, all these nerds that are out there running around doing it. But you know what? I don't care. I'm going to try it out.
Meanwhile, they'll probably find out in five years that it causes me to turn into, like, some sort of strange robot or. I have no idea. But here I am trying to keep it real. So I'm taking this thing. I'm on. I just took shot number two. So far, so good.
I'm going to check back in a few weeks. I will let you know how it's going. I am not here recommending you do this. I'm not here not recommending you do this.
I have no recommendation whatsoever. The only recommendation is don't go home and tell your wife that you're talking about this. You want to take it.
But the funny part is my kids and my wife think I'm an idiot because I walk around my house in the last nine days and I say to everybody, hey, do I look hot? You know, like, aren't I like Jack now? Don't I look cool because I'm like so skinny and whatever. And they're like, you're an idiot. That's not funny.
I think I've said that joke. I mean, easily every day, at least once a day I go, oh my God, I'm so hot now. Now that I'm on one of these things. So meanwhile, I'm.
My jokes are getting worse. That's the only output, the only outcome of this whole thing. So that's the update. Wow, you weren't expecting that. Neither was I.
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